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Old 07-04-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Automatic Drives and Clutches

Automatic Drives and Clutches on motorcycles have been around a long time. The Rudge Multi used a form of the variable pulley drive, back in the 1912, to give a supposed 19 speeds. Most of the automatic clutches you will run across will be one of four types.

Centrifugal with clutch plates.
Centrifugal with clutch shoes
Centrifugal drive and driven clutches with a belt connecting them. (Snowmobile Type)
Fluid Torque converter
Centrifugal with Clutch Plates
This type has clutch plates and usually goes with a transmission. Weights press the steel and fiber plates together engaging the clutch as the engine speed rises. Weak springs disengage the clutch as engine speed drops. Honda 50, 70 and 90cc engines and others, use this type of clutch. These Hondas use a lever on the end of the shifter shaft to completely disengage the clutch to shift gears.

Centrifugal with Clutch Shoes
This type has clutch shoes. The shoes are held in with springs. As the engine speed rises, the shoes press against the clutch housing, and engages the clutch. These are used a lot on 4 wheel ATVs along with a regular clutch and transmission. Go carts and those little, big wheeled, mini-bikes with Briggs & Stratton engines also use this type of clutch.

Centrifugal Drive and Driven Belt Clutch
This type has a drive clutch and a driven clutch that are connected by a big thick belt. The sides of the drive clutch (mounted on the engine crankshaft) are pressed together with weights as the engine speed goes up. This makes the belt climb the sides effectively making the front pulley bigger. The driven clutch (Mounted on what ends up being the countershaft sprocket) has a weak spring that pushes the pulley sides together. As the front pulley gets bigger the belt pushes against the rear pulley, overcoming the spring, and making the rear pulley smaller. What all this means is that you have a infinitely variable transmission with this type of automatic clutch. This type is used on Honda Odyssey 4 wheelers and lots and lots of snowmobiles. It is also used on some mini-bikes, go-carts, and on Rokon two wheel drive dirt bikes. The old Rokon 340cc motorcycles used it too.

Fluid Torque Converters
Honda had a 750cc and a 400cc, Suzuki had a 450cc, and Moto Guzzi had a 1000cc automatic. Most were made in the late 70's, early 80's and had a 2-speed gear box with a Fluid Torque Converter that worked just like a car. You don't see too many of these bikes nowadays, and on most, the Torque Converter was a sealed unit, requiring no service.

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Repair on all of these is pretty simple. If the plates, shoes or belts are badly worn replace them !
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How well did the clutches hold up on the automatic bikes? From the lack of availability it appears the automatic clutch was either not worth the bother to maintain or costs too much to buy in comparison to a standard clutch and trans.
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